Definitely off topic but is there a wider Armenian diaspora due to Rhomania's empire? A random thought.
I think generally there are a lot of Armenians in administrative positions throughout the empire, so they are fairly widespread, but I think most of the population is still in greater armenia by OTL definition of that region. I wouldn't imagine much of an international diaspora since Rhomania has been a net destination for immigrants in the last century or so and Rhomania's colonial holdings aren't in heavily depopulated areas like the Americas which encourage heavy migration.Definitely off topic but is there a wider Armenian diaspora due to Rhomania's empire? A random thought.
I can see the multicultural nature of the empire being the basis for civic Rhomanian nationalism.I think generally there are a lot of Armenians in administrative positions throughout the empire, so they are fairly widespread, but I think most of the population is still in greater armenia by OTL definition of that region. I wouldn't imagine much of an international diaspora since Rhomania has been a net destination for immigrants in the last century or so and Rhomania's colonial holdings aren't in heavily depopulated areas like the Americas which encourage heavy migration.
That seems to be the direction this is heading. In a somewhat inverted version of OTL colonialism I can see Rhomanian nationalism being bolstered by their overseas holdings through a process of inclusion rather than exclusion. The idea that "we are all Romans" has seeds in the inclusion of Armenians, Turks, and Slavic immigrants, the inclusion of Malays, Sri Lankans, and more could solidify it.I can see the multicultural nature of the empire being the basis for civic Rhomanian nationalism.
Maybe..but we must remember In otl the by the 10th century the concept a Roman was much closer to what i would call a cultural nationalism. I.E someone who eats,behaves,acts and follows orthodox Christianity was a roman...I can see the multicultural nature of the empire being the basis for civic Rhomanian nationalism.
That being said I wonder what racism will look like in Rhomania.That seems to be the direction this is heading. In a somewhat inverted version of OTL colonialism I can see Rhomanian nationalism being bolstered by their overseas holdings through a process of inclusion rather than exclusion. The idea that "we are all Romans" has seeds in the inclusion of Armenians, Turks, and Slavic immigrants, the inclusion of Malays, Sri Lankans, and more could solidify it.
We already have a taste of that with their cultural civilization level outlook where they view certain cultures as higher than others based on how civilized they are, with cultures like the Romans, Persians, Chinese, Japanese, Ethiopians, and Vijayanagarans/Indians all having high marks for totai objective reasons.That being said I wonder what racism will look like in Rhomania.
It sounds good until you realize the result is going to be shaming people's cultural history. "Your food is trash. Your clothes are ridiculous. And that mongrel tongue sounds horrid. But it's ok. You can be civilized just leave everything your ancestors passed to you behind and be like us."We already have a taste of that with their cultural civilization level outlook where they view certain cultures as higher than others based on how civilized they are, with cultures like the Romans, Persians, Chinese, Japanese, Ethiopians, and Vijayanagarans/Indians all having high marks for totai objective reasons.
So your skin color won't matter, but the language you speak and culture you present will.
Not disagreeing at all, just pointing out that B444 has Rhome maintaining cultural chauvinism for their chief form of bigotry rather than an ethnic/racial based one from OTL/ITTL western Europe. So bigotry more like modern China or India rather than USA.It sounds good until you realize the result is going to be shaming people's cultural history. "Your food is trash. Your clothes are ridiculous. And that mongrel tongue sounds horrid. But it's ok. You can be civilized just leave everything your ancestors passed to you behind and be like us."
I meant that it sounds good because it's distinctly not racism. It doesn't matter what your ethnic background is, but how you act, dress, talk, and eat certainly does. On the surface there's a positive in that anyone can be accepted within Rhoman society, but it's at the cost of cultural diversity and is going to lead to a good amount of xenophobia.There's nothing good about it, racism is racism. The only difference is that it's not tied to skin color so it's harder to classify people on sight.
Doubt it, I don't think they mind minority retaining their language as long as they become Romans and accept Roman laws. It's a multil ethnic empire after all for thousand years of it's existence. Learning the main language is necessary if these minority languages want to survive.I just hope that the Romans don't go down the same road as France when it comes to cultural homogenization. Wiping out minority languages to make everyone a Constantinopolitan doesn't sit right with me, at all.
I don't know; I haven't given much thought to this. There are lots of different ways this could go over the next few centuries; we'll see what develops organically.I just hope that the Romans don't go down the same road as France when it comes to cultural homogenization. Wiping out minority languages to make everyone a Constantinopolitan doesn't sit right with me, at all.