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    Nineteen Eighty-Four Through Graphics

    The Embryonic Beginnings of English Socialism The first point of divergence is that Oswald Mosley does not become a fascist. He stays in the Labour Party beyond 1931, and this affords him a future position in Churchill's wartime National Government cabinet. Mosley proved to be a dynamic force...
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    Nineteen Eighty-Four Through Graphics

    Hello AltHistory! Over a year ago I started a thread.... https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/nineteen-eighty-four-graphics.481486/ It was intended to explore one of my favourite books ever, Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four, through the creative medium I'm best at, graphical work. Life...
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    Nineteen Eighty-Four Graphics

    Go for it!
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    Nineteen Eighty-Four Graphics

    Yep, exactly. Beria was a reformer in his own way, but he was also very much someone in Stalin's orbit as it were. His role with Soviet internal security would put him in a prime position to further transform the USSR into a Eurasian state with a similar internal security apparatus as we see in...
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    Nineteen Eighty-Four Graphics

    Provinces of Oceania. Oceania operates on a provincial level. We know that, as the narration describes Airstrip One (Great Britain) as the "third most populous province of Oceania." The provincial nature of Oceania is later detailed in Goldstein's book. In it Oceania is described as having no...
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    Nineteen Eighty-Four Graphics

    Yeah, it's a fun idea. The issue is that the USSR absorbs continental Europe. So the trick is figuring out how the USSR could then transition into Eurasia. My personal theory is that Stalin more or less lives as long as he did in the OTL, dying in 1953. The difference is that the world is...
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    Nineteen Eighty-Four Graphics

    Eurasia revisited. So I talked about flags for the three superstates and their ruling ideologies in the second post of this thread. I generally like how everything turned out, but the Eurasia one sort of doesn't sit right. I think it's the lack of text. Both the final iterations of the...
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    Nineteen Eighty-Four Graphics

    Thanks! The Cromwell line was one of the first things in the book that made me want to know more about the history of that world. I didn't know much about Cromwell at the time, but I knew who he was in a broad strokes sort of way. And it was enough for me to both go "oh yeah that totally makes...
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    Nineteen Eighty-Four Graphics

    Propaganda! Who doesn't love propaganda? So worked into this is a bit of a fan theory, one based on @Will Ritson 's Images of 1984 TL. It's very well done, and I would recommend anyone who hasn't looked it over do so immediately. Will Ritson's take isn't exactly mine- he leans into the "Oceania...
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    Nineteen Eighty-Four Graphics

    So I decided to keep this thread going for general Nineteen Eighty-Four graphic work. Next up, drawing on the above stuff, flags! Oceania The idea here is that the above flag served as Oceania's first "national" flag during its early period. It uses the central emblem from the founding...
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    Nineteen Eighty-Four Graphics

    Yeah, it's Labour's first emblem, before they went to the flag wordmark and then the rose. It always had a revolutionary look to it, and I thought it would be a good starting point for the project. The busyness was intentional :D The "WORKERS' LIBERTY" text was a late addition, but I feel it...
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    Nineteen Eighty-Four Graphics

    Thank you!
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    Nineteen Eighty-Four Graphics

    Hello! So I was unsure where to put this...I remember there being an alternate party logo thread around, but it hasn't been posted in for five years. So I figured a new thread was better than trying to resurrect that one. My apologies if there's a newer thread that this would fit better in. I...
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    Fascist flag thread

    Sounds fascistic.
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    Request Maps/Flags Here

    My pleasure :) Here's two variants for the PZRoI flag. The first just changes the stripes to red. Now the Israeli flag's stripes are meant to represent the stripes on a Jewish prayer shawl. Those are usually blue (hence the flag) or black. So simply changing them to red may not really work...
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    Request Maps/Flags Here

    Here's what I've got. The "Federal Republic of Israel" sounds like they would just use the OTL Israeli flag, which was the flag of the Zionist movement prior to being adopted by the new State of Israel. The FRoI and SoI seem to have, more or less, parallel histories. If you want something...
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    Flag Thread IV

    1984 never actually described any flags or insignias beyond vague remarks to red banners at a party rally. Obviously the V/INGSOC logo is the go-to design, but that design as no basis in the book. If we take what we know from the book, and only the book? That they used red banners and that...
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    Austro-Hungarian Air Forces in World War 2, what roundels, crosses, chevrons

    A-H aircraft in WWI used the Iron Cross. I see no reason to assume they'd stop using it had the state survived through to WWII. Unless they end up on the Allied side. In which case I see them adopting a red and white roundel. The A-H Air Force used red and white bands prior to the adoption of...
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    Let's all go down the Strand - Images of 1984 reboot

    My inbox is always open if you need help with late 20th century Canadian history/politics.
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    Alternate Party Logos.

    Here are some logos I first showed off in the wiki info box thread... An alternate Republican Party logo. I see this as representative of the Republican Party had the Rockefeller Republican faction retained control, keeping the neo-cons to the party fringe... And in red, if that's how you...
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