Henry Fitzroy might become King (Tudor's unlucky Year 1528)

[kaiidth]

In the spring of 1528, King Henry's only legitimate child Mary had a bout of smallpox which she did not survive.


Anne goes into quarantine at Hever in June 1528 when one of her ladies is taken ill with sweating sickness. Anne becomes ill and does not survive. Henry knows that he has to look for a new favorite Lady.

Henry's only living child for the moment is his illegitimate son Henry Fitzroy.

And then Henry VIII dies in August 1528 from a hunting accident.

 

[Deleted member 147978]

Oh goodie, a supposed Henry Fitzroy TL.

I can't wait to see what hijinks this TL has to offer.

 

[kaiidth]

Wouldn't Frances Brandon be seen as a most logical Bride for Henry Fitzroy?

 

[kaiidth]

Twentieth day of August, Year of the Lord 1528

Catalina of Aragon, or as she was called here, Queen Catherine of England, had spent her night on her knees in front of the Altar of the Good Lord, but alas it changed nothing for the better.

It had brought her clarity though, bitter clarity and it had brought her an idea, a vile tasting idea which laid painful on her heart, but still an idea which she might need to follow with determination.

Her own sweet child had been taken too early from this cruel World by the Good Lord, but she did not begrudge her daughter the Peace in Heaven.

The death of the latest whore of her husband had not truly changed much for her, Catherine herself, though the death of her husband a few days ago most certainly did.

For he had a child, not from her body and instead bastard born, but a son who was healthy and strong and alive.

The last living and recognized Child, the only living son of her husband, the last living Child of King Henry Tudor.

Catherine felt ill even thinking about the boy, but she could not deny that he looked quite much like his Royal father.

 

[ordinarylittleme]

In the spring of 1528, King Henry's only legitimate child Mary had a bout of smallpox which she did not survive.


Anne goes into quarantine at Hever in June 1528 when one of her ladies is taken ill with sweating sickness. Anne becomes ill and does not survive. Henry knows that he has to look for a new favorite Lady.

Henry's only living child for the moment is his illegitimate son Henry Fitzroy.

And then Henry VIII dies in August 1528 from a hunting accident.

Katherine of Aragon is still alive, right?
In that case, she is 100000% going to do her best to at least be regent. Bessie Blount as "queen mother" would be a huge slap in the face to her

 

[kaiidth]

Katherine of Aragon is still alive, right?

Yep and well loved by the English people...

In that case, she is 100000% going to do her best to at least be regent. Bessie Blount as "queen mother" would be a huge slap in the face to

Definitely.

 

[Alex Zetsu]

Now this is a plausible way for HenryFitzRoy Henry VIII dying in a hunting accident alone in 1528 isn't enough for 9 Year old Henry when his legitimate sister is alive since he was never explicitly declared heir by Henry VIII

 

[ordinarylittleme]

Now this is a plausible way for HenryFitzRoy Henry VIII dying in a hunting accident alone in 1528 isn't enough for 9 Year old Henry when his legitimate sister is alive since he was never explicitly declared heir by Henry VIII

lmao true though
OK but if Mary is dead, Katherine...has no reason to stay in England. So she high-tails it back to Spain?

 

[Alex Zetsu]

lmao true though
OK but if Mary is dead, Katherine...has no reason to stay in England. So she high-tails it back to Spain?

I'm not sure. Sometimes Queen Dowagers stick around sometimes not, it depends on how well they're liked by the locals. In this case she probably stays, but who knows

 

[ordinarylittleme]

I'm not sure. Sometimes Queen Dowagers stick around sometimes not, it depends on how well they're liked by the locals. In this case she probably stays, but who knows

She is well-liked, but what is the point of her staying? It's not HER child who is on the throne. She isn't exactly best friends with Bessie, who ITTL will play a Margaret Beaufort-like role..

 

[AddyLane]

The easiest fix to this would be to have Fitzroy marry Frances or Eleanor Brandon. None of them were married to their respective spouses until 1533, so it is possible. In the line of succession, Mary Queen of France and Henry Brandon stand in the way of the others - as do Margaret and her children, but they are in Scotland.

 

[ordinarylittleme]

The easiest fix to this would be to have Fitzroy marry Frances or Eleanor Brandon. None of them were married to their respective spouses until 1533, so it is possible. In the line of succession, Mary Queen of France and Henry Brandon stand in the way of the others - as do Margaret and her children, but they are in Scotland.

That is possible, but if Margaret had a surviving daughter, I feel like Fitzroy would pick her

 

[FalconHonour]

That is possible, but if Margaret had a surviving daughter, I feel like Fitzroy would pick her

Margaret Douglas then perhaps?

 

[AddyLane]

Possibly, but Margaret Douglas is less of a catch than if she had been a Stewart and royal. Despite Margaret being the elder Tudor sister, she was not on as good terms as Mary. Mary's children are all English and more desirable to England.

 

[kaiidth]

Frances Brandon will surely be a fitting Bride, though the it is of course a First -Cousin problem..

 

[ordinarylittleme]

Possibly, but Margaret Douglas is less of a catch than if she had been a Stewart and royal. Despite Margaret being the elder Tudor sister, she was not on as good terms as Mary. Mary's children are all English and more desirable to England.

Mary is seen as French queen and England was on shit terms with France...

 

[kaiidth]

Mary is seen as French queen and England was on shit terms with France...

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22 January 1528
At Burgos, the heralds of England and France declared war on the Holy Roman Empire and a trade embargo was introduced.

25 January 1528
St George’s Chapel, Windsor, Francis was installed by proxy as a Knight of the Order of the Garter.
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[ordinarylittleme]

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22 January 1528
At Burgos, the heralds of England and France declared war on the Holy Roman Empire and a trade embargo was introduced.

25 January 1528
St George’s Chapel, Windsor, Francis was installed by proxy as a Knight of the Order of the Garter.
..........

...Yes, and?
Margaret Douglas queen of England, then

 

[Alex Zetsu]

She is well-liked, but what is the point of her staying? It's not HER child who is on the throne. She isn't exactly best friends with Bessie, who ITTL will play a Margaret Beaufort-like role..

There is no point in her staying with Mary dead, but there were multiple queen dowagers who stayed in their late husband's location for... no reason I can think of. It's more likely if they don't have much prospect of remarriage and the court is friendly.

 

[ordinarylittleme]

There is no point in her staying with Mary dead, but there were multiple queen dowagers who stayed in their late husband's location for... no reason I can think of. It's more likely if they don't have much prospect of remarriage and the court is friendly.

So, Katherine stays. She probably won't remarry. Does she enter a convent?