Most Ironic moments in History (Pre-1900)

The last imperial dynasty of china were manchurian invaders. Their successor government was overran by... people invading from manchuria
 
There was a line of males later extant, so 'demise' may be a bit hyperbolic, as the extinction of the Jacobite Stuarts only happened some 265 years after his statement, under Cardinal-King Henry. If you consider the more maternal lines after the gap caused by the Queen of Scots, then the family has not gone very extinct at all, though the Duke of Bavaria would not quite fit in Braveheart.
The demise is in a sense of not ruling Scotland, the Stewart family coming to the throne through Marjorie Bruce, daughter of Robert the Bruce.
This comment was said with James believing that his daughter would be the last of the Stewart monarchs, however Anne would be the last Stewart to sit on the throne of Scotland (through Britain).
As James F.E. Stuart was never crowned, so him and his sons won’t class.
The duke of Bavaria doesn’t could as he’s not a Stuart being a Wittelsbach while also not actually being a sovereign ruler.
 
from Wikipedia_

The Battle of Almansa took place on 25 April 1707, during the War of the Spanish Succession. It was fought between an army loyal to Philip V of Spain, Bourbon claimant to the Spanish throne, and one supporting his Habsburg rival, Archduke Charles of Austria. The result was a decisive Bourbon victory that reclaimed most of eastern Spain for Philip.

The Bourbon army was commanded by the Duke of Berwick, illegitimate son of James II of England, while Habsburg forces were led by Henri de Massue, Earl of Galway, an exiled French Huguenot. This makes it "probably the only battle in history in which the English forces were commanded by a Frenchman, the French by an Englishman."
 
“Royalist Irish Gaelic lord of Inishowen, Sir Cahir O'Doherty, had applied to gain a position as a courtier in the household of Henry, Prince of Wales, firstly to achieve his ambition of becoming a courtier and secondly to help him in his struggles against officials, who Cahir had came into dispute such as the Viceroy Sir Arthur Chichester and the Governor of Derry Sir George Paulet.
Unknown to Cahir, on 19 April 1608, the day he launched the O'Doherty's Rebellion by burning Derry, his application was approved.”

I think this is ironic as you don’t expect a man with hopes of getting into the establishment would rebel against the establishment, and because of this it’s cringe worthily funny.
 
“Royalist Irish Gaelic lord of Inishowen, Sir Cahir O'Doherty, had applied to gain a position as a courtier in the household of Henry, Prince of Wales, firstly to achieve his ambition of becoming a courtier and secondly to help him in his struggles against officials, who Cahir had came into dispute such as the Viceroy Sir Arthur Chichester and the Governor of Derry Sir George Paulet.
Unknown to Cahir, on 19 April 1608, the day he launched the O'Doherty's Rebellion by burning Derry, his application was approved.”

I think this is ironic as you don’t expect a man with hopes of getting into the establishment would rebel against the establishment, and because of this it’s cringe worthily funny.
Rebels because the establishment won't let him in, but turns out they did.
 
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“Royalist Irish Gaelic lord of Inishowen, Sir Cahir O'Doherty, had applied to gain a position as a courtier in the household of Henry, Prince of Wales, firstly to achieve his ambition of becoming a courtier and secondly to help him in his struggles against officials, who Cahir had came into dispute such as the Viceroy Sir Arthur Chichester and the Governor of Derry Sir George Paulet.
Unknown to Cahir, on 19 April 1608, the day he launched the O'Doherty's Rebellion by burning Derry, his application was approved.”

I think this is ironic as you don’t expect a man with hopes of getting into the establishment would rebel against the establishment, and because of this it’s cringe worthily funny.

Now that's some black comedy.
 
America declared war against Britain in 1812 over issues that had been already resolved diplomatically. The American President, who had spent years attempting to get rid of the US armed forces suddenly wanted to army to do things, things like invade Canada and keep American shipping safe from the Royal navy. In both accounts the US failed and the British, distracted by Nappy, countered the American invasion, launched their own, burned the US capital (accidentally or deliberately) defeated and destroyed much of the US navy at sea.

Virtually the only brightside in the war for the Americans would be a handful of single ship actions where larger American ships beat down British frigates, and a victory against British forces in New Orleans after the war was over. largely because nappy was still a problem the British then make a peace treaty where they agree to return to the prewar borders.

And yet in school I was taught how the evil British attacked helpless America for no reason, that the US valiantly fought back the redcoat hordes, and won the war.
 
There used to be a thread somewhere in these forums for "Things that look AH but weren't".
It still exists but in Non-Political Chat. The first two editions are still in Books and Media. The third was originally in Books and Media but was moved later to Non-Political Chat, and since then the saga has remained on the latter forum.
 
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The Jacobites continued to use the title "King of France" while they were exiled in France and using the "other" King of France's support for a restoration in Britain.
 
Khosrow II, the last Sasanian shah to have a long reign, was immediately overthrown after his accession and was only restored thanks to a Roman invasion. More than a decade later, he began a war against them, one that lasted 26 years and ultimately went nowhere, leaving both empires utterly exhausted and wide open for the Arabs to invade.
 
America declared war against Britain in 1812 over issues that had been already resolved diplomatically. The American President, who had spent years attempting to get rid of the US armed forces suddenly wanted to army to do things, things like invade Canada and keep American shipping safe from the Royal navy. In both accounts the US failed and the British, distracted by Nappy, countered the American invasion, launched their own, burned the US capital (accidentally or deliberately) defeated and destroyed much of the US navy at sea.

Virtually the only brightside in the war for the Americans would be a handful of single ship actions where larger American ships beat down British frigates, and a victory against British forces in New Orleans after the war was over. largely because nappy was still a problem the British then make a peace treaty where they agree to return to the prewar borders.

And yet in school I was taught how the evil British attacked helpless America for no reason, that the US valiantly fought back the redcoat hordes, and won the war.
And Britain accomplished... absolutely nothing, in the grand scheme of things. The sum total of actual changes achieved by the war was the White House getting painted white.

Great work, you gave America one of its most enduring national symbols.
 
Are we talking about the majority of the Nazi party executives promoting the blue-eyed blond Aryan race when most of them are brown and far from being beauty standards?
Edit: It's after 1900, but it's one of the most macabre ironies I can think of.
 
And Britain accomplished... absolutely nothing, in the grand scheme of things. The sum total of actual changes achieved by the war was the White House getting painted white.

Great work, you gave America one of its most enduring national symbols.
I wouldn't consider defending their own territory against a hostile invader, ravaging their naval and mercantile fleets, and launching an invasion of their own nothing.

Honestly the US is lucky the war was a secondary conflict next to the Napoleonic wars, and it's only through fairly clever propaganda that the conflict is seen in anything other than a humiliating light in the US.
 
The gatling gun reduced the size of armies, just not in the way its inventor intended it to do for it was the basis of the modern machine gun.
 
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