Was the diet back then truly horrible; I would have thought it was rather balanced?
Realistic Longevity of Frederick III
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Carter I'm Yog
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A thread about Fred III? Interesting. Reminds me of a WWI fic I read about with FIII surviving and organizing a Germany-Austria-Ottoman-"Republic of China"(not the historical one) Central Powers. And winning WWI through it.
nobody is guaranteed to get cancer from smoking no matter his genes, some people have higher chances of getting it but that still doesn't guarantee anything.
How horrible diet Frederick III had? Regarding stress being emperor might affect pretty few even on that time. FIII's father Wilhelm I lived at age of 90 and emperor Franz Josef lived at age of 86. Altough I have not any idea what kind of life habits these men had.
In other hand you can live to old age een with bad living habits. Churchill lived at age of 91 despite him being overwitght and smoking and drinking alcohol very much.
Obviously it would be a very small chance, but any possibility of him becoming a centenarian?
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kham_coc
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No cancer is (absent ionising radiation) a stochastic effect, its just random.
No person is guaranteed to develop cancer, or even make it likely.
Yes you can worsen your odds, but at the end of the day, it's a cell that goes rogue and isn't caught by the immune system.
The incidence is 5/100 000
With about a 20× if you smoke meaning 1/1000 (less since we are double dipping on smoking) -so cancer was still an outlier in terms of rolls, so it's entirely within the realm of possibility and reasonability to butterfly it.
Bismarck had a similar lifestyle and lived to be 83, sometimes it’s just a matter of luck.
Carter I'm Yog
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It's in Chinese. If you could read Chinese I won't mind finding it for you. Also, the story has a time-travelling future soldier that cured FIII's cancer by feeding the emperor his blood. Since his blood has medical nanobots and stuff. But that's about as far as ASBs go.Do you remember the name perhaps? I would like to read it
As you could probably guess, the entire Chinese side of things was also handled by the super soldier who lived to the age of 150 IIRC.
Didn't Fritz also have to get treatment for syphilis around the time the Suez Canal opened?
As to the diet, Wilhelm I used to eat the same thing for lunch EVERY DAY for most of his reign: lobster salad. Even when dining with guests. Must've swallowed some of those anti-ageing properties lobsters apparently have
As to the diet, Wilhelm I used to eat the same thing for lunch EVERY DAY for most of his reign: lobster salad. Even when dining with guests. Must've swallowed some of those anti-ageing properties lobsters apparently have
My recollection is that his cancer management was botched. He reported throat soreness, the German doctors thought it might be cancerous (though treatment would render him mute if found), he visited an English specialist who denied it was cancer at all. He got worse. After a year or more of gargling, resting the throat and taking baths, new specimens were taken and the English doctor agreed it was cancer. The old Kaiser (Wilhelm I) vehemently urged that he not have surgery (because it risked death and guaranteed mutism) and Friedrich (possibly in denial by now) decided to put up with the pain and either recover or die eventually but able to perform his duties in the meantime. In the end by the time he became Kaiser he was clearly dying and unable to speak.
Had he been properly diagnosed in the early stages, as someone already noted, my understanding of the medical technology of the mid-1880s is that he could very well have lived a decade longer or more (taking into account if they cut out all the tumour/s before they spread he would still be susceptible to new tumours elsewhere ie remission and relapse / recurrence) but with a tracheostony and therefore unable to perform vocal elements of his duties. I get the feeling the ethos of the time was if he can’t perform all the functions of an Emperor and shows weakness then better he not rule at all. Though this may just be his conservative enemies considering him too influenced by his ‘English’ wife and happier to bypass him for his son. From what I can see this ethos is also reflected in his son Wilhelm II with the hiding of his palsied arm and his braggadocio to present the image of strength.
Had he been properly diagnosed in the early stages, as someone already noted, my understanding of the medical technology of the mid-1880s is that he could very well have lived a decade longer or more (taking into account if they cut out all the tumour/s before they spread he would still be susceptible to new tumours elsewhere ie remission and relapse / recurrence) but with a tracheostony and therefore unable to perform vocal elements of his duties. I get the feeling the ethos of the time was if he can’t perform all the functions of an Emperor and shows weakness then better he not rule at all. Though this may just be his conservative enemies considering him too influenced by his ‘English’ wife and happier to bypass him for his son. From what I can see this ethos is also reflected in his son Wilhelm II with the hiding of his palsied arm and his braggadocio to present the image of strength.